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November 13, 2009
Spotting a liar and finding the
truth
By Eric Fisher
BROOKLINE, Mass. -- "Everybody lies in some respect."
Perhaps those are pessimistic words from Private Investigator Jay
Groob. But there may be truth to the fact that most people lie,
sometimes on a daily basis.
"People get away with murder these days and don't care about
lying. That's what I find." says Groob.
You can probably understand that Groob comes across a lot of
liars. Owner of American Investigative Services in Brookline, it's
his job to interrogate and interview possible suspects.
Groob spoke to abc40 about the techniques involved, and the long
process of an interview (some of which can take hours). He says it
begins with the setting.
"Normally you have to take them out of their environment, their
comfort level" says Groob. That setting may be different for each
person. It could be a hotel room, a boss's office, or a place
they've never been. But to sniff out a lie, you don't want to
interview a person in their own room or comfort zone. It's also
helpful to find a room without distractions. No phones, nothing on
the walls, and not too big.
There's also a fair amount of homework involved. Groob and his
staff run background checks, learn a suspects' family dynamic, their
living situation, their intelligence level, and their ethnic makeup.
All of the variables can play a role in gauging a personality and
tendencies.
The interview begins with a few control questions. "What's your
name? Where do you live? Do you like baseball?" are all easy
questions to answer. Groob reads the mannerisms that accompany the
responses. Then they get to the meat of the interview.
Once Groob finds a change in the pitch of someone's voice, a
shift of the eyes, hands rubbing together, or a change in posture;
he'll focus in and attack with a series of questions designed to dig
for answers.
They're all called micro-movements, slight "tells" of the body
that can give a liar away. Groob says that by doing the background
check, gauging someone's personality, and by watching all of these
movements, they can catch a liar at least 70% of the time. When
combined with a polygraph machine, it's nearly foolproof.
But there are some that believe in more specific tells. Joe
Tecce, of Boston College, is one of those people. He's a professor
at Boston College University, whose claim to fame is his ability to
predict the outcome of presidential elections through eye-blink
analysis.
"In the last 8 elections, the faster blinker during the debates
always lost the election," says Tecce. The only exception to that
rule was in 2000, when George Bush lost the popular vote but won in
the electoral college. Bush was a faster blinker than contender Al
Gore.
Tecce has made a living off of his research, which concentrates
primarily on political figures. He's clocked John McCain at 104
blinks per minute, and Bob Dole at a whopping 180 blinks per minute
(both election losers). The normal rate for an average person is in
the 30-50 blink per minute range.
"Blink rates are typically situation ally driven. The more
stressful, the faster they blink," says Tecce.
Tecce believes that blinking is a more fail-proof method for lie
detection because it's hard to train yourself to control your
blinking. He says you can slow the rate for a while, but once you
get comfortable or engaged in a conversation you slip back to old
habits and tells.
There are also the 3 R's used to find truth, according to Tecce.
Reliability, redundancy, and relevance are all factors to look for.
Reliability refers to whether or not a person contradicts themselves
in a line of questioning. If a person repeats themselves for effect,
or says the same thing a number of times in an interview, it can
also be seen as a sign of a lie.
And finally, there's relevance. If a suspect strays for the
topic, or begins to talk about something unrelated, it's a good sign
that they're avoiding the subject and are uncomfortable.
In the end there are a number of tools that can be used to find
out whether a person is genuine. The hard part is putting them all
to work at once, something we rarely do in everyday
conversation.
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